Help me get number one position on "nutritional supplements"

**Cloughie** · 01-08-2004, 03:15 AM

Hey guys,

The help I have received on this forum has been excellent so far and I need some help for me to achieve my goal.

I want to rank at least on the first page for the search term “nutritional supplements” on google.

I have optimized my site somewhat http://www.atlargenutrition.com but if you guys could look through it to see if there is anything else I can do?

I have also linked appropriately from my other sites www.wannabebig.com and www.wannabebigforums.com

I am working on getting as many links to Wannabebig so I can increase my linking power to At large. Any more hints and tips I can do to make my process to number one quicker?

**Chris** · 01-08-2004, 09:20 PM

Change the title tag to "Nutritional Supplements by At Large Nutrition. Your #1 choice." Simply moves the keywords to the front.

Add a <h>eader.

**Cloughie** · 01-09-2004, 02:32 AM

What do you mean add a header?

I will make that other change this evening though, thanks.

**MarkB** · 01-09-2004, 05:40 AM

I believe Chris means have a <h1> or <h2> tag, etc, somewhere on the page (preferably at the top, I'd imagine).

Good luck

**Cloughie** · 01-09-2004, 05:44 AM

I could make the first sentence in a bigger font.

**r2d2** · 01-09-2004, 06:27 AM

No dont just change the font, you need to put your keyords in <h1> tags, so that Google thinks that your page is about "nutritional supplements".

Google uses the words in <h> tags to help decide what your page is about - if its in the title it should be a good description of whats on the page.

Eg, change

Code:

<p>Atlargenutrition, your online source for nutrition information and nutritional supplements. </p>

to

Code:

<h1>Atlargenutrition, your online source for nutritional supplements. </h1>

(Have cut out words to increase keyword density)

Have just looked at your code again and you appear to be hiding content by moving it above the top of the page - that wont be good if someone reports you.... And you have <h1> tags in the bit you are moving above the page:

Code:

<div id="contentLinks" class="contentLinks">
  <p>Atlargenutrition, your online source for nutrition information and nutritional supplements. </p>
  <h1>At Large Nutrition - Your number one choice for nutritional supplements.</h1>
  <p><b><a href="nutrition.php?osCsid=81d22cd72663d7605ac18c6cae5e6017">At Large Nutrition - Your number one choice for nutritional supplements.</a></b></p>
  <p><a href="nutrition.php?osCsid=81d22cd72663d7605ac18c6cae5e6017">At Large Nutrition - Your number one choice for nutritional supplements.</a></p>
  <p>, online, store, us, canada nutrition, nutritional, sports nutrition, nutrition supplement, sport nutrition, body building nutrition, diet and nutrition, large, atlarge, creatine, diet, fitness, weight, body, food, athlete, athletic, health, article, lifting, muscle</p>

  <p><a href="nutrition.php?osCsid=81d22cd72663d7605ac18c6cae5e6017">At Large Nutrition - Your number one choice for nutritional supplements.</a></p>
</div>

Where .contentlinks is:

Code:

.contentLinks { 
  position:absolute; 
  left:0px; 
  top:-640px; 
  width:640px; 
  height:640px; 
  z-index:1
}

**Cloughie** · 01-09-2004, 06:37 AM

hmm, my web designer did that for me... So I should remove it?

**r2d2** · 01-09-2004, 06:44 AM

Ah right - all I know is that this is frowned on by Google and could get you banned, instantly ruining any SEO you have done.

However, there seems to be some debate about how often Google actually bans sites.

Im only a beginner really, so wouldnt like to say on something like this, but I wouldnt do it.

**r2d2** · 01-09-2004, 06:52 AM

The other thing you can do is move your javascript to an external file to increase keyword density, and move ALL layout to your CSS file.

**Chris** · 01-09-2004, 07:47 AM

You don't need to keep the default formatting of the H1 tags, you can change the size in css. But the tags should be used.

**Mike** · 01-09-2004, 09:23 AM

Google uses the <h> tags to find what your site is about? Do they? As from what I see quite a lot of sites don't even use these tags.

**Cloughie** · 01-09-2004, 10:57 AM

Thanks guys!

**r2d2** · 01-09-2004, 11:25 AM

Originally posted by Mike
Google uses the <h> tags to find what your site is about? Do they? As from what I see quite a lot of sites don't even use these tags.

They use it along with all the other stuff like backlink anchor text, page title, content keyword density etc. Sites that dont use them, arent gaining the benefits. Using <h> tags is the way html was intended, hence Google uses it.

If you have two identical pages, one with keywords in <h1> tags, one with the keywords in a <font> tag instead, Google will rate the one with <h1> tags higher (ignoring duplicate content, assuming same PR etc).