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    google rant. please read all before taking their side in a reply.

    When does Google become responsible for their actions? The arguement always comes up "Google is a FREE search engine. They care about their users, not webmasters using them. They owe nothing to the webmasters."

    I think it's extremely careless for Google to hold no responsibilty for screwing things up for Internet businesses. Google, a company I had loved for years, is beginning to show signs of that 'cocky geeky arrogance'. Not familiar with what geeky arrogance is? Go read their blog. Almost every post has some lame joke that no one laughs at, its just "HEHE WE'RE GOOGLE, LAUGH WITH US".

    I'm going off topic with these jokes, but here are some examples...

    "Some Cardinals fans also enjoyed the hands - but none of those photos are suitable for posting (the hands we provided all started out with five fingers, I swear)."

    "So I got involved with the 'fusion' initiative by joining the team working on a personalized homepage. We launched today, so now I can return the Python books I bought my lazy friends. Check it out and tell us what else you want to see. We just might code it up." - Just STFU, thx.

    Ok, the joke thing is completely off topic. We all know the Google blog was never going to talk about anything useful.

    Extreme fluctuations in search engine rankings. Is this appropriate? How could an extreme fluctuation be correct? Everyone uses Google right? I haven't been reading any news stories of "Jane Doe Google User" searching on "father's day gifts" and getting porn instead? Whats the emergency that requires Google to do these massive fluctuations in their rankings. In Google we trust right? Well ever since their toolbar broke (its still broken) with no announcement, gMail was hacked, and update after update of extreme ranking changings, I have lost my absolute trust in Google.

    Oh ya, there is one news story. Icebane Doe searched on the term motorcycle the other day, and found BUYDOMAINS.COM!! at #8 on Google. Of all companies, BuyDomains?
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    More jokes that make me want to pinch a loaf..
    "Does Google have a strategy, or are we just a bunch of mad computer scientists running around building whatever we want?"

    Tee hee!!!!!!



    And correction, Google toolbar is working now.
    Last edited by Kyle; 06-01-2005 at 03:35 PM.
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    I think Google has lost their focus.

    Previously Google seemed to take the stance of ingoring the webmaster/seo.

    Now they seem to take the stance of anti-webmaster/seo.

    Instead of working on making the best algorithm, they're instead working on making SEO harder or less reliable.

    Its really kind of silly. SEO isn't bad if it gets an appropriate site to #1, yet Google seems to think so.
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    Chris, I was afraid you were going to slam me for criticizing Google. Thanks for your reply.
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    FjcCK U GOGGLE iZ GAWD!

    I agree, they've gone too far towards other things, so far that the search engine's really starting to suck. They know the parts of a site that can make sure that you're getting the right page, and the right content, but they just kind of ignore it.

    I could agree with it if they split it into 2 companies, or areas, and had everyone in it dedicated to that, but this doesn't seem to be the case, and the quality suffers.

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    Google grew quickly because of webmasters like us promoting them with free search boxes on our websites, etc. And Google can be toppled (hopefully, yet not overnight) by promoting OTHER search engines. There's still Yahoo & MSN (both of whom I believe offer better results).

    I've pretty much given up on SEO for my own sites; client sites are another matter - they demand it, and demand being on top of Google, so I usually have my work cut out for me

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    SEO isn't bad if it gets an appropriate site to #1
    The problem is everybody think that their site is the most appropriate, and yet
    there are only 10 results showing on the first page .

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    Ahhh, but he didn't say *most* appropriate, just *appropriate*

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    I was merely pointing out that "appropriate" is very subjective. We all complain because we think we deserve to be #1 .

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    what about ranking #1 for some terms, and not even ranking at all for others, with seemingly no explanation? that's where it gets frustrating...

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    It seems to me, ever since Florida, their search results have got progressively worse. Having said that, I still don't think they owe anything to anyone, other than people that spend money with them.

    I've kinda given up with focusing on Google and instead look for other sources of traffic.

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    It seems to me, ever since Florida, their search results have got progressively worse.
    True.

    I'd say that search engines really need to work on themselves. If they were all really good, there'd be the same results in all of them. Truth is that my sites, some I'll be one-10, others I'll be past the 1000s.

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    Update to original post.

    It has been 1 1/2 months, BuyDomains is now #15 on motorcycle.
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    I think we could call this the "Microsoft effect." No one likes something if it gets too big.

    You can't blame this all on Google, part of it is the SE spammers faults too -- just like hackers making Windows insecure.

    Search engines are going to evolve. Google's clock is ticking, but I think Adwords will keep them on top for another 10 years at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cutter
    You can't blame this all on Google, part of it is the SE spammers faults too -- just like hackers making Windows insecure.
    Cutter, I'm sorry but that's a very poor way of looking at the issue. Microsoft made Windows insecure, not hackers. Hackers take advantage of the insecure operating system.

    Windows hasn't just been insecure either. When the most common solution to fixing some unexplainable Windows error is to restart the computer, thats pretty f----- up.
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