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    Over Optimization Penalty?

    I've done a few searches and found that the sites near the top are usaully the ones that only mention that keyword once. The other which are including it like 10+ times, are way way down.

    Anyone else notice this with other searches? Could there be an over optimization penalty?

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    It might just be PR. Tell us PR of the top ones, and then the bottom ones with have the keyword more...

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    1st: PR2
    2nd: PR3
    3rd: PR1

    A load on page five have PR5, and there's sites with a higher PR than 4 after then.

    It's not PR
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    Don't think so, most of the links near the top have one backward link.
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    Google-****ing-around-for-laughs?

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    There is no over-optimization penalty.
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    What do you think is causing results like this then Chris?
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    Proof of what Chris said: Search for 'Amazon Coupons' and click cached on the top few results.

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    After so many changes Google made, I think it takes time to figure out what we have to do.

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    There is no such thing as an SEO penalty. The main thing that has changed ( as far as I can tell ) is that an incoming link only really counts when the webpage linking to you is considdered an authority on the subject. ( that's why directory's have been sitting so high in the SERP's lately since these are considdered authority's on their subject ) So for example, linking from a webmaster site to a basketball site will have zero to no effect. Like I read somewhere, you're not getting penalised, you're simply not rewarded for "non-related" incoming links.
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    Though there isn't alot of statistical evidence yet to prove it. What Percept said is how I feel.
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    I thought that until a few weeks ago. At the moment I am doing link exchange with two msn emotion websites. All of us are nowhere to be seen.
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    Google needs to update mike...

    Chris - You should REALLY get SearchEngineLabs onto the local rank thing...

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    Given the optimization of my site, I would disagree Mike. Not sure what else is triggering it but I use keywords substantially more than that in page content, and likewise in all <alt> text and titles.

    Sites I've seen pulling this off in the past have often utilized the keywords in their URL, have utilized keywords in their <alt> very well, or they have a ton of links pointing back at them.

    If you truly want to be confused, go to Google, do a search for "fishing" then scroll down and click on #7 and tell me how that got there! And, it's been sitting in that same spot since last August! }:8^)

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