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I just started a new blog today. I have been searching for other blogs to exchange links with. Sadly, all of the blogs I am finding are just SE spam. The sites contain no content and just Google Adsense.
The technique works like this: create a blog on Blogger or Blogspot. Make posts with keyword links to their SE spam site.
If you find any spam sites click on the "Ads by Goooogle" and type in spamreport with a description. Besides getting banned they should lose any Adsense revenues.
That's interesting; I guess they need to do some work on their own, instead of just using comments spam since better anti-spam techniques and filters are being used, along with rel="nofollow"
While Adsense does not ban people that make a great deal of revenue (visit any seo forum), they may give the offender a warning though and/or tell them to take the ads of that particular site.
Some black hats even make blogs with a script and then will it with scraped content and get a service to ping so its listed in 40 hours, and watch the adsense dollars roll in. This is all hearsay of course, I don't participate in such tatics :)
I imagine SE spamming could be a big benefit to Google. They can ban the domains from their listings, but if Yahoo & MSN its a win win situation.
What these 'darker hats' do is they buy hundreds of domains at a time and then don't care if they are banned, they have it all automated. I heard tales from one guy who had 85 domains banned in one day! But he also released 40 sites that day too.
I find it odd that they would only ban the domains and not the accounts. Of course, if they did the spammers would just sign up with new names.
You would think that the effort of creating 40 sites would, ultimately, be better spend in creating good long lasting sites with some potential :confused:
I think most people would rather start making $1000 a day tommorow than waiting 5 years to make $1 million.
Where is nintendo when you need him :p
Ah, but the best can turn out a big site in 2 hours or less that will make them at least a few thousand... Its profitable but ethically quite questionable :)Quote:
You would think that the effort of creating 40 sites would, ultimately, be better spend in creating good long lasting sites with some potential
i agree with new guy this thread is begging for Nintendo to comment on, always enjoy what he has to say. If you want to trade blog links I have a blog which is not crap which I am happy to trade links with anyone on :)
Well, in his absence:
AWS SUX GO FIN DOMETHING ALSE!!!!:D:D!~!!iêëh○ß¿
lol... :) good stuff.
What is up with him ?Quote:
Originally Posted by James
I keep running accross him on loads of forums, all he ever says is AWS is dead and the good old days when he made $6k in a month but then released the mod_rewrite hack and it ruined it all.
LOL :) love itQuote:
Originally Posted by James
dalecom: I think he's basically pissed that he's not making the big bucks anymore - and its all his own doing; his modification of Mr Rat's AWS script brought in a bunch of people looking to make money (including me!;)), so his own (low-quality) AWS sites suffered.
Personally, I love AWS - it adds $100+ to my bottom line every month at the moment. Not big bikkies, but it's nice change ;)
As to the original topic: comment spam is crap; even more crap are the 'splogs' that I keep hearing about; Blogs which rip other's content into an actual standalone blog, simply to get SE listings and ad revenue. Baaaa.
Speaking of comment spam: I used to have to manually delete so many damn posts, clicking the radio button to "delete" for each and every one of them. Then I upgraded to WordPress 1.5. If you're not using the latest version of WordPress, I suggest you do, because it seems to catch all comment spam, and allows mass selection of "spam" so all it takes is a quick browse.
Nintendo's still not back round here again. Maybe he's putting time into making sites that aren't just Mr. Rat's script thrown up with 30 different domain names and the same horrible and ugly layout?
There is a keyword ban list you can use for WP too. If someone uses the word, the comment automatically get delted. I've been getting some wierd comment spam recently, with links to places like apple.com.
Yes, Wordpress 1.5 is neat. If only they'd release an official multi-blog system.
I am experiencing some keyword competition from legitimate blogs on yahoo, but they don't rank high on google. There needs to be a way to filter out blogs because the name of the blog linked to from 500 other blogs can get a big boost, even though it is not what the user would be looking for.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutter
Nintendo will be here :)
er AWS is dead!!!! :mad: Blarg!!!!! Any one want to guess how much I made last month from Amazon??!! Grrrrrrrr!!!!!
I've dumped about 10-15 datafeed domains (Mostly Overstock.). It took me a little while...five years... to register again that content is king once you mess up and generate a billion competition sites. Grrrrr!!!!! So the newest sites I've been making are.....content.
I made an ebay store script and you can bet I'm not going to try selling very many of those!!!! As soon as I got my first sign-up, my brain registered...Moron, what are you doing!!!!???? Don't you remember what happened after you started giving out that Amazon mod_rewrite hack??!!! Stup up about it!! Sheese!!!!
LOL!! Did you nominate me for Entrepreneur of da Year over at that other place??!! There's a LOT of people who know way more than me in affiliate stuff. If any one should get that Award, it's Chris!!! The last time I had a year making around $100,000 was in 2000!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Emancipator
Hi Nintendo :D :D :D!!!
Miss me!! :D:D:D:D:D:D:D
Grrrr!!! So far this quarter I've made $97.20 from Amazon!! :(
You expected AWS to earn you a noteable income for ever? :confused:
OMG a post from Nintendo without any of those annoying :D icons.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nintendo
Bugger .... I just ruined it.
Yeah, me too! I'm trying to hack up a multi-blog version of wordpress right now for a site I'm working on. By the time I've finished it, they'll probably release an official version!Quote:
Originally Posted by MarkB
Just an update for people interested in multi-user blogs...
http://www.invisionpower.com/ip.dyna...log/index.html
Looks pretty cool, especially if you alreay have an IPB forum!
I think this activity, and Google's failure to crack down on it, brings the whole rationale for Adsense into question.
As a pay per click user I always untick the "content" box.
While the websites may not be very good, there's still the chance that they'll convert for you.
Nonetheless, I'm sure that Google's working on it. I'm sure that people don't mind having their ads on quality sites like weblogsInc.
Yep, you are leaving money on the table if you do not at least test out the content network. Due to smart pricing you will usually end up spending significantly less per click than you do on the SERPs.
That being said, "contentless" pages do convert. People only arrive at scraper pages through search engines. In fact, now they have to click twice to get to your site -- that means they really are interested in what they are looking for.
Am I say spam is alright? No, I'm just saying it isn't worthless. Search engines are the ones that really have to worry. As a publisher, its a pain in the butt, but spam has no longevity in this game. Right now a spammer might be pulling in $50,000 a month of his sites, while I'm pulling in a couple of thousand. But, I know that 5 years from now those sites will be worthless, while I might be having people begging to buy mine.
Yep, thats the way to look at it. Its a game of patience and long term return.
Actually, there's a much better technique. You buy a program that automatically creates your blogger accounts (you can make 100 or so in 10 minutes), then you upload your site map to every one of them in the blink of an eye (rel=nofollow is removed btw), and finally you automatically ping all of them.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutter
The result = A 20,000 page site fully indexed in 3 days
That's not very nice. Just because you play white hat doesn't mean you should go around reporting everyone who doesn't.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutter
Reporting spammers will only help the network.
If I'm trying to rank for a keyword and someone's doing something I know is against some TOS or is illegal, I'll report them. There is nothing wrong with doing that. I'm not sitting here at my computer all day looking for these people, but if I happen to run into a site and its in my niche, it will get reported. Not nice is abusing blogspot and the search engines.
I see, like the infamous Adsense Police ...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutter
Hurting someone elses bottom line... you know not all spammers are rich.. some even have families to feed...Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutter
I see, so it's only a problem when they're competing with you (and ranking better)....Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutter
Abusing the search engines? Yes.. god knows those billion dollar corporations need all the help they can get!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Cutter
How about the search engines running all over webmasters? How about Adsense dumping publishers who do nothing wrong? These big companies use and abuse us all day long, but if someone uses them it's wrong??
What it really comes down to - is that you're annoyed they're ranking better than you. I'm not trying to pick a fight or anything.. I just want my opinion out there...
Spam hurts all of us.
Invalid clicks mean a lower ROI For advertisers. Then advertisers start buying less, and then all publishers are hurt.
Spammers are like cancer. The cancer might be in the stomach, and we might be up in the head, but if we don't put a stop to it it'll spread and the whole body will be in jeopardy.
This is why it is so important for the webmaster community to self-police as much as possible, and yes that includes reporting those who knowingly break the rules.
Actually it's one of the main reasons search engines have to keep improving, thus making better results for users...Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
HOLD IT RIGHT THERE.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris
Just what on earth makes you think they bring INVALID CLICKS? Are you trying to say that because someone clicks from a spammy page they aren't going to buy?
That is probably the most rediculous thing I've ever heard. I could call all of your clicks "invalid" because you blend them into the page, thus TRICKING users into thinking they aren't ads.. :rolleyes:
In reality, a click from a targetted spammy page is JUST AS GOOD to an advertiser as a click from a white hat page. Unless you're talking about people who force clicks, use redirects, refreshes, etc.. and then it's fraud.
If you think spam doesn't convert I suggest you search for "cheap viagra" on google and see what the first 10 results are ;)
It has to do with the quality of the visitor.
When I said invalid clicks I thought we were talking about adsense spam, not serp spam. I guess it was your whole "How about Adsense dumping publishers who do nothing wrong? " comment that made me think that is what we were talking about.
But serp spam, email spam, etc all brings in a lower quality of visitor than clicks from a good content site.
And it still hurts too. Spammers spam, search engines introduce filters, and invariably some good sites get trapped by the filters too. Also the opinion of the populace as to the usefulness of the Internet lessens.
If you make your money online then anything that tarnishes the image of the Internet is bad for your business, that is a fact.
Irrelevent, in order for them to rank, they are bumping someone else's ranking. If someone want a stable income, relying on search engine traffic is a very bad choice.Quote:
Originally Posted by yo-yo