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incka
12-23-2003, 02:21 PM
Mine is the debt management site thing you MAY have heard me talking about, what's yours?

Yoda
12-23-2003, 05:02 PM
I'm building a site full of automatic code generators and customizers.

Mike
12-24-2003, 03:42 AM
I'll reveal mine in the new year. I'm working on the scripting today.

incka
12-24-2003, 04:43 AM
Oh come on mike... Give us aleast some clues like Shawn did...

Mike
12-24-2003, 04:48 AM
It's nothing big, you may as well just wait a few days or so.

incka
12-24-2003, 05:08 AM
I suppose...

What happend to your other site where you could build websites?

Mike
12-24-2003, 05:15 AM
That was an affiliate program, which hasen't really done very well. I will put something on next year, weather it will be my own program or the affiliate one again.

incka
12-24-2003, 07:44 AM
I think that website maker would be good for advertisng offline, for people who want a good website but don't know how to build one and can't afford a web designer.

Mike
12-24-2003, 07:50 AM
Yes, it probably would. But where offline would you be able to advertise? I don't think the Wakefield Express or Yorkshire Post is quite suitable:)

incka
12-24-2003, 08:01 AM
I don't either...

Maybe you could produce leflerts and post them in industrial estates in smaller units which are more likely not to have websites.

Mike
12-24-2003, 08:08 AM
I think I will find a few magazines actually.

incka
12-24-2003, 08:11 AM
Also try contacting all the companies who don't have websites in the trade wholesale catelog magazine thing. Market traders buy things from the wholesalers advertinsg in it, and alot of the wholesalers don't have sites.


Edit: Magazines can be very expensive to advertise in...

Ronny
12-24-2003, 10:13 AM
I'm working with my pal now really hard on the next version of our main website (for now), Websitefaq.com (http://websitefaq.com)

We're also working on our company's site, which is at www.pixelsheaven.com, and we're in a process of thinking about some new sites, still don't have any idea. Someone? :-P

incka
12-24-2003, 01:30 PM
I really like the design of websitefaq...

Ronny
12-24-2003, 02:59 PM
Thank you! I'm glad to hear (read) that! :)
But I made a new sketch 5 hours ago, and it's ROCKS! I can't wait to show all of you this design - but we're still working on it, it's really beautiful and I want to show it when it will be done.
Perhaps I'll ask some questions about SEO soon and then in this context show the design, dunno. Whaaaaa I love it so much, I must return to work before I'll go to sleep :)

incka
12-25-2003, 09:34 AM
I usually plan designs in my head, and then look at websites that have elements of the design...

Ronny
12-25-2003, 11:31 AM
My process is a little different, tending more to look like - What feel I want to express in the site, what is the optional styles for that feel, and then the colors, elements and styles are coming, I'm sitting and painting a basic sketch (well 20 sketches is more correct :-P), and just then I'm going to the comp to design that thing, while always checking it's not too similar to other sites and\or designs. :)

This was the "Ronny's Way of designing cute things" quick tutorial, I hope you like it ;) Perhaps I'll publish something similar to that on our company's website sometime.

Mike
12-25-2003, 12:18 PM
I just grab some paper and jot down rough designs.

Shawn
12-25-2003, 12:26 PM
I find a picture I want to use on my site and than I make the design relate to that picture.

www.mesotheliomaguide.net

Like the girl on the right. The picture gives off of a light, warm, vibe. Hence, the site is small, "charming," and uses pastels.

incka
12-25-2003, 12:53 PM
Originally posted by Mike
I just grab some paper and jot down rough designs.


Paper is dead!

Use a tablet!

Ronny
12-25-2003, 12:56 PM
I WILL use a tablet, but I don't have enough money for that now... Some day :) [Dreaming]

incka
12-25-2003, 12:57 PM
Ditto...

Mmm... Remember Ditto Max tape drives?

Ronny
12-25-2003, 01:08 PM
Sorry, I don't have a clue, what are you talking about? :-P

Mike
12-25-2003, 02:15 PM
Originally posted by incka
Paper is dead!

Use a tablet!

I do actually have a tablet, but don't use it that often. I find it easier to do it on paper for some reason:confused:

Your way is interesting Shawn, you just find a picture and build the design around that?

incka
12-25-2003, 04:11 PM
Yes, I find it interesting too...

Like I have a picture of alan partridge, can you make a design around that for us all to see?

michael_gersitz
12-26-2003, 04:50 PM
I am working on www.jfonts.com and www.jtemplates.com , then I am working on a article site similar to this one....

incka
12-27-2003, 02:26 AM
What is the difference apart from design between jfonts and xyzfonts?

Mike
12-27-2003, 09:47 AM
I think he uses them to cross promote.

BTW Michael, well done on the PR6 on xyztemplates:)

EDIT: It's now gone back to a 5:(

incka
12-27-2003, 10:55 AM
This month I'm going to try to get 3B Games up to PR 6...

Mike
12-27-2003, 12:38 PM
What about Games2Go? Isn't that your main games site?

michael_gersitz
12-27-2003, 06:36 PM
Originally posted by incka
What is the difference apart from design between jfonts and xyzfonts?

xyzfonts.com was my first font site I made. I learned what keywords to target etc. etc. Then I built Jfonts.com and loaded it up with content.

I advertise jfonts.com on xyzfonts.com and have put alot of ads on both sites. And xyzfonts.com only has about 20 fonts, while jfonts has about 150 in 11 catagories.

They both get about 1,500 hits a day each.

michael_gersitz
12-27-2003, 06:38 PM
Originally posted by Mike
I think he uses them to cross promote.

BTW Michael, well done on the PR6 on xyztemplates:)

EDIT: It's now gone back to a 5:(

Blame Google. It should move up to PR6 soon...

Mike
12-28-2003, 03:11 AM
Originally posted by michael_gersitz

They both get about 1,500 hits a day each.

How many pageviews?

incka
12-28-2003, 04:49 AM
Are hits pageviews or visitors?

michael_gersitz
12-28-2003, 10:37 AM
1,500 hits...

I am not sure unique.... proboally around 350...

emke
12-28-2003, 12:04 PM
Just to get even further away from the topic...

Why does anyone even bother looking at how many hits they have? Uniques and page views numbers are what matter in the end. Or am I missing something?

Mike
12-28-2003, 01:08 PM
I don't look at hits anymore.

incka
12-28-2003, 01:33 PM
I've had millions, but that's not really enough...

Mike
12-29-2003, 02:52 AM
It's not for an online games site, imagine all the files:eek:

incka
12-29-2003, 04:46 AM
I know... I'm using 8gb of bandwidth a month and I don't even have 75,000 page views a month yet...