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JasonN
08-30-2006, 11:29 PM
I created this site with the purpose of making it the de facto reference site for my niche (how fly fishermen can imitate insects to catch trout). The niche was chosen because of my interest in it and not based on the keyword payouts, which are mediocre but not awful.

Main URL: http://www.troutnut.com

Some good jump-right-in links to typical specific content:
http://www.troutnut.com/hatch/7/Mayfly-Ephemerella-subvaria-Hendrickson
http://www.troutnut.com/hatch/649/Mayfly-Isonychia-bicolor-Mahogany-Dun

My goal was to present all the most interesting information I could put together on the topic in a way that would be as easy as possible to understand. I've tried to create a lifetime asset that's useful to a lot of people, but I also want to monetize it as well as possible.

I did all the programming (from scratch, no CMS), writing, and photography. It took about 20 months, about 10 of which were full-time work.

Here are a few of the coolest features from a webmaster standpoint:

I have an internal ad serving system to store several different AdSense code versions with different channels and rotate them. I rotate them by session, rather than by pageview, so users aren't bombarded with an obtrusive rainbow of ads, but they see a different color every time they come back.
It also randomizes ad positions by having more than 3 ads in the code for the page and showing some of them only 5% or 10% of the time or something, and stopping when it gets to 3/page. Interestingly, I found a lot of the randomized occasional positions didn't work very well, so I recently disabled many of them because the bottom leaderboard (last in the "queue") got a better CTR.
I have a detailed behind-the-scenes system to keep track of the notes I took from books, which I used as the basis for my articles. I use a quick UBB-code-like tag in the articles to insert Amazon affiliate links to the books.


Any tips/comments/ideas on the site or monetization?

ozgression
08-31-2006, 12:56 AM
Looks good. Did you program the SE friendly forum yourself?

JasonN
08-31-2006, 08:49 AM
Yeah.

peach
08-31-2006, 12:48 PM
great site, I can see you put work in it.
The only thing I was missing was a good overview of all the articles you've got, like a teaser list that you can sort by taxa or category.

I think adsense will serve you well in terms of monetization. Before you can step it up you have to think of marketing your site and establishig a stable flow of traffic.
I'm also working on a site that is similar in it's content and purpose but it's about 1/4 of what your site is, in terms of volume and diversity. I know the site sure is valuable enough but I'm unsure how to market it. Do you have some sort of marketing plan for your site?

FPU
09-01-2006, 08:11 AM
WOW, that is an award winning site, did you do all the design and coding yourself man :confused:

Do you do outside work :confused: :idea:

Masetek
09-02-2006, 08:12 AM
Wow, Im impressed. Sounds like you have a kick4ss custom cms backing it up too. Too be honest I dont have any suggestions in regards to adsense placement, revenue etc. You've done very well and I think this site will make some good cash thru adsense. Have you looked into affiliate offers at cj.com? I think I recall some high paying trout fishing retreat offers thet had going on which could work well on a site llike this

Stephen Wright
09-02-2006, 08:44 AM
I agree, this is really a great site. Obviously, you've put a lot of time into it, or learned a lot of shortcuts!!

Kudos,
Stephen

shim
09-02-2006, 11:01 AM
Nice header!

I really like how you handled how the reflections from the water and the top menu interacts. Nice detailed images, too! They definitely peaked my curiosity and caused me to click further into the site. Bravo!

JasonN
09-03-2006, 09:13 AM
I think adsense will serve you well in terms of monetization. Before you can step it up you have to think of marketing your site and establishig a stable flow of traffic.

Oh, I should point out that this new site is loosely based on an old one, which wasn't database-driven and had only about 1/4 the pictures and 1/30 the text. But it did have some established traffic, between 400 and 600 uniques/day in August, and closer to a thousand in the spring when more people are fly fishing.


I know the site sure is valuable enough but I'm unsure how to market it. Do you have some sort of marketing plan for your site?

Kind of. I promoted this new site a lot in the first week and now traffic seems to be leveling off at about my old spring level. I'm looking to raise it a lot, but I'm sort of low on promotion ideas to bring targeted traffic, and I don't want to attract too much untargeted traffic because I'm pursuing a CPM advertiser who might drop me if all the impressions are to non-fishermen.

I've thought about paying for advertising, but some initial experiments on AdWords don't show it to be profitable (yet). Clicks don't pay enough in my niche, and the CTR is lower than many because people are at the site for the content.


did you do all the design and coding yourself man

Every bit of it!


Do you do outside work

I used to, but definitely not anymore. I wish I had started building content sites of my own back in 1997 in high school when I was wasting time trying to get business clients to build sites for.


Sounds like you have a kick4ss custom cms backing it up too.

Yeah... it took forever to build, though!


Have you looked into affiliate offers at cj.com? I think I recall some high paying trout fishing retreat offers thet had going on which could work well on a site llike this

Thanks for the reminder. I just went over there and re-signed-up, after my old account had been disabled for inactivity. I don't see anything appealing on there right now but I'll keep an eye on it. I'm using the Amazon affiliate program already and pretty soon I think I'll have one for fly fishing tackle, but both are outside of CJ.


Obviously, you've put a lot of time into it, or learned a lot of shortcuts!!

Definitely the former!


Nice header!

Thanks. :) The header rotates through about 50 different images automatically, one per day. All of them try to create that "on the stream" feel.

E8MC
09-16-2006, 10:39 AM
Pretty kewl site, Jason!

I'll suggest you think about fixing the following code errors to make sure your site not only validates under W3C standards, but is also visible and accessible in all browsers:


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