Many "blog sites" have high rankings & just redirect traffic to affiliate campaigns!!

[Michel Z.]

I noticed that many "blog sites" (= sub-domain of a blog, like yourname.blogspot.com) have high rankings within search engines, for example - MSN Search & just redirect traffic to affiliate campaigns!!

How is it possible that such sites get a top-5 ranking within search engines (i.e. MSN Search) & the only thing what those personal blog urls do is "re-directing" you to affiliate offers whereby you will NOT see the original blog itself at all?

What is the 'trick' here to get such a high position?

Thanks!

[Giles]

Blogs are SEO machines!
Think about it, they are regualerly updated, keyword rich and relevant. If there is a blog on a specific topic and it is regularly updated. Google and Yahoo like newsfeeds and blogs also have these.

[Chris]

they also attract links like mad for whatever reason.

[Emancipator]

Michel MSN is on crack. Dont base it on blogs only. My newest site is 2 days old and I am currently number 2 on MSN search for my term. And its a great term.

The trick? lots of backlinks. And remember I am only talking msn search here :)

[Masetek]

MSN is on crack.

LMAO!!

MSN may be on crack, but is usually works in your favor giving you easy traffic

[Cutter]

This is just an MSN issue. For a while re-directed blogs where occupying all the top ten spots for "credit cards" on MSN. MSN has been making someone rich.

[Emancipator]

so true masetek.

[mark1]

It's just another BH (black hat) technique. And as you have seen it works quite well with MSN. There are scripts out there which make it very easy to build hundred of new blogs a day, submit scraped pages or a rss feeds with your links embedded and ping at given intervals.

I don't judge, I just keep myself informed.

[Michel Z.]

they also attract links like mad for whatever reason.

Thanks Chris!
How does that work?

I mean webmasters I referring to don't do more then setting up a sub-domain with blog & re-direct given blog url to any affiliate campaign!! See as example I found: http://www.j-ringtones.blogspot.com

Also noticed that example url I gave has 0 link popularity (= NO back links)!!

My question is how can get someone a top-5 ranking by just doing above mentioned?

[Michel Z.]

This is just an MSN issue. For a while re-directed blogs where occupying all the top ten spots for "credit cards" on MSN. MSN has been making someone rich.

But why MSN likes so much 're-directed blogs'?

Let see my blog has name: myname.blogspot.com, it is that MSN looks only at 'myname.blogspot.com' or at domain 'blogspot.com' regarding number of backlinks, fresh content, etc.?

[Giles]

Michel, the link in your sig is:
http://www.free-ringtones.bz/
Shouldn't it be:
http://www.free-ringtones.biz/

[allout]

I am sure that it helps that blogger aka blogspot is now owned by Google. Who else would be better at getting the highest rankings? :eek:

[Cutter]

But why MSN likes so much 're-directed blogs'?

Let see my blog has name: myname.blogspot.com, it is that MSN looks only at 'myname.blogspot.com' or at domain 'blogspot.com' regarding number of backlinks, fresh content, etc.?

I really don't know exactly if there is a specific "trick" they are using with MSN.

[michael_gersitz]

Well its on crack. No way should I be getting some of these top spots for some great keywords..

[silverdragon88]

Hi there! I'm new here, and this is my maiden post.

Yes, its a trick spammers are using in MSN. Its from this certain e-book about black hat SEO blogging strategies. I bought the book a couple of weeks ago, but I will advise against buying it today. It basically teaches you how to spam blogger servers with so-called "splogs".

Personally, I'm just waiting for these blogs to get penalized by either blogger, or MSN itself.

[Michel Z.]

Hi there! I'm new here, and this is my maiden post.

Yes, its a trick spammers are using in MSN. Its from this certain e-book about black hat SEO blogging strategies. I bought the book a couple of weeks ago, but I will advise against buying it today. It basically teaches you how to spam blogger servers with so-called "splogs".

Personally, I'm just waiting for these blogs to get penalized by either blogger, or MSN itself.

What is the name of ebook you referring to?

[Michel Z.]

Hi there! I'm new here, and this is my maiden post.

Yes, its a trick spammers are using in MSN. Its from this certain e-book about black hat SEO blogging strategies. I bought the book a couple of weeks ago, but I will advise against buying it today. It basically teaches you how to spam blogger servers with so-called "splogs".

Personally, I'm just waiting for these blogs to get penalized by either blogger, or MSN itself.

Thanks Giles!
But mentioned thread doesn't answer my question regarding '0 back links'!

[nitin]

To get high rank in MSN, here is most of these people doing it:
1. Register a domain name with keyword in it. Like widget-online-widget-buy-widget.com
2. Spam every possible blog / guest book and link to this domain with widget anchor text. Key is number of links and you will get on top.

[Michel Z.]

To get high rank in MSN, here is most of these people doing it:
1. Register a domain name with keyword in it. Like widget-online-widget-buy-widget.com
2. Spam every possible blog / guest book and link to this domain with widget anchor text. Key is number of links and you will get on top.

How many 'back links' from blogs are needed VERSUS number of 'back links' from not related blog sites ('regular' sites if you can say so) in order to get the same 1st page ranking in MSN Search?

With other words how powerful are incoming links from Blogs compared to incoming links from other sites?

[nitin]

When talking about blog links, all it matters is number. Most of the people use tools (this is certainly blackhat stuff) to sign in automaticaly in blogs. Go to MSN and make a search for any top credit term, e.g. payday loan or something similar. Do a contain term search with domain name for the sub of blogs that are ranking top. E.g. on msn you search for "widget-sell.cleanblog.com" You will typicaly see 2 K to 15 K of these contain term in other blogs. And again it depends upon search term.

Many people get links in bulk from FFA, many people play it chain like where in they get some of the subs of blog popular by blog signing and then interlinking all their sites with that sub blog.

[Michel Z.]

When talking about blog links, all it matters is number. Most of the people use tools (this is certainly blackhat stuff) to sign in automaticaly in blogs. Go to MSN and make a search for any top credit term, e.g. payday loan or something similar. Do a contain term search with domain name for the sub of blogs that are ranking top. E.g. on msn you search for "widget-sell.cleanblog.com" You will typicaly see 2 K to 15 K of these contain term in other blogs. And again it depends upon search term.

Many people get links in bulk from FFA, many people play it chain like where in they get some of the subs of blog popular by blog signing and then interlinking all their sites with that sub blog.

But if you have a lot of FFA links or using link farms there might be a great change that search engines will ban you, correct?

Can you explain again: "Many people play it chain like where in they get some of the subs of blog popular by blog signing and then interlinking all their sites with that sub blog." I didn't understand that part!

Thanks a lot!

[nitin]

See the way, these sites work, they dont rank on top for forever. They just need one week or in many cases just one day at top to make a killing. They keep on getting banned, but then they create thousands new sites as well. SE frowns upon link farm and they will ban the site in say one week (typically they take more than a week in banning), but one week top 10 for Buy Phentermine is 50 K.

When I say chain, it is like this. Some guys rent a sub from a popular blog site. Basically they go to a regular log site with huge backlinks and will offer say 500$ a month and ask them to create a subdomain abc.theirblog.com Also they will ask blog site to give links to this sub from all their pages. Most of the blogs are maintained by individuals who will jump upon this offer. Now on this sub the blackhat guy will put hundred page site and sure enough all these hundred pages will be linking to his other similar sites. Imagine the link juice of hundreds of pages of a popular site linking to another popular blog site sub with a great anchor text.

Sure enough these practices are frowned upon by SEs and that is why it is blackhat. They keep on baning these subs and blackhat guy will go to other blog site and make a similar deal wit other site as well.