Azoogleads Adjustment

[cameron]

I just received a check from Azoogleads accompanied by a letter explaining that they made a mistake in a recent publisher payment. The check is to correct the shortfall in my last payment. It's signed with actual ink. Anyone else get one of these, or was it just an error with my account?

[5starAffiliates]

The check is to correct the shortfall in my last payment.

So they sent you extra money to make up for it?

What a concept! Some other networks just only seem to take money away.

I think I will like representing Azoogleads. :nod:

[Emancipator]

clear this up for me. What do you mean by you represent them? What do you do for them in a non sales-pitchy fashion. The meat and potatoes of what you do for them and they for you.

[Michel Z.]

Yep, their accounting system had an error! Therefore everyone received twice payment for February earnings. Besides that there was nothing special going on, just that my 1st payment wasn't the full amount I suppose to get & 2nd payment week later was the remaining amount. :)

PS - I didn't receive this letter because I receive bankwire from Azoogleads!

[FPU]

So they sent you extra money to make up for it?

What a concept! Some other networks just only seem to take money away.

I think I will like representing Azoogleads. :nod:

Linda please explain how we can put up the landing pages that Azoogalads offers as stand alone domains.

What is the best way to host these pages/mini sites?

[5starAffiliates]

Hi Emancipator,

What I do for all my clients and will soon be doing for Azoogle is a unique combo of consulting, advertising, promotion and PR but I also act as a laison between the company and affiliates and I'm also sort of an affiliate advocate. It's a little hard to explain, because no one on the planet does what I do so there is no parallel I can really draw.

In some ways it's kinda/sorta like I'm an outside sale manager is in the brick and mortar world. I'm the one out in the field (in this case out in the forums) letting the companies know what affiliates need. If I see problems or questions I let the company know so they can fix and/or answer the concern and I also recommend new solutions or services the companies I represent should offer to make it easier for affiliates.

For instance I have educated lots of merchants about parasites and gotten them to drop them and also convinced many merchants of the need for 800 phone tracking and how to set it up to be sure affiliates get all the commissions they deserve. I only work with companies that I believe are fair, honest and treat affiliates right. I've been on the affiliate side and the affiliate management side and understand both.

I guess you could call me the middleWoman. :p
My clients think I work for them, but I feel like I work for you guys.

FPU, I'm off to see about getting an answer for you on that.

[FPU]

OK, we will be waiting for your answer and help on the right way to do this!

[5starAffiliates]

FPU and all,

SO sorry! They have a booth at the ecomXpo and have been tied up with that all week. Me too.

I did pass this thread on to someone at MPORT who was going to get someone at aZoogle for you. Someone should be here after the show if not sooner.

[James]

Uhhh okay, your job description does not sound like AzoogleAd's representative in the CJ deal to me. It sounds like you're an outsourced organic spider, or customer service.

[5starAffiliates]

"your job description does not sound like AzoogleAd's representative in the CJ deal to me. It sounds like you're an outsourced organic spider, or customer service."

Sorry, not even sure what you mean by any of that. CJ? Spiders? Job? I don't work for Azoogle, they are about to become one of my clients.

[FPU]

Take it easy man, Linda is trying to help us, she can't be expected to give instant answers, no one is that much of an expert on every program!

[Emancipator]

fpu i think you missed what james was trying to say. Hes making a statement not waiting for some sort of answer :)

[FPU]

So maybe you understand his statement better than me! :eek:

Please see if you can explain it to the rest of the forum as anything other than a silly insult! :eek:

OK ? :rage:

[Emancipator]

i dont know what james was thinking or meaning by organic spider but I know james quite well and seriously doubt it was an insult. I wont speak for James though to "the forum". I am sure he can do that himself :) Dont shoot me for trying to help. I am not attacking anyone.

[FPU]

No problem man, but Linda is an expert at the affiliate game, so it is up to us to treat her with a bit of respect and class since she is trying to help US! :goof:

[izwar]

ive never heard of azoogle im pretty new at this, how do they compare to adsense

[Emancipator]

Izwar use fastclick or casalemedia. I would elaborate on why but I dont want to be overly critical.

FPU I agree with you, everyone here is on a level playing field and all deserve respect. :) Accept for Chris who is THE MAN.

[James]

What I said wasn't an insult. I'm confused by her wording, saying she's a representative.

Spider: Her job is to scan (crawl) forums and return data to her employers.

Customer service: She answers customers' questions and concerns, and big-ups the companies she's working for.

[Emancipator]

And to clarify on m chris ( site owner ) comment I am not kissing *** I just have been here long enough to see that he is truly the expert here :P Sorry if it comes across as a brown noser... I am certainly not.

What do you mean by big-up james?

[James]

Big-up = promote, Mr. Brown nose ;)

[Emancipator]

haha... hey i call it as it is and in my books chris is an expert. Thats why this is the only webpub site i read and visit.

[5starAffiliates]

No I never said I'm a representative - I said I represent them.

They are a client. I am a consultant. No I don't crawl forums and return data to employers or do customer service.

I spend lots of time in forums and if someone has a problem or question I try to help get an answer for them even if it's not one of my clients. Even if it's an Adsense question I try to help and I sure don't work for Google. If it's one of the 50 affiliate programs I represent, though and I can get right to the top and try to get answers then I do. Affiliates on the other forums I hang out at appreciate it.

Well now I'm a little reluctant to even point them to this thread since my offer to help turned turned so flamey. Thanks FPU for trying to turn things around. So sorry we have all been tied up at the show. I'll just email your question directly to someone tomorrow and PM you with an answer since I think you are the only one that had that particular question.

Thanks

[Emancipator]

I somehow think I got lumped into that comment since FPU did earlier. Then again I could be reading into it :)

You have an intriguing job and I for one am VERY curious about it. And to be honest I still dont understand it, but then I never claimed to be the sharpest spoon in the drawer. I am new to webpub and learned all I know here by asking questions on this site. Thats the nice part is you can ask questions here without fear of being called an idiot. I hope you dont interpret that as me flaming you or being confrontational.

So from what I understand affiliates/agencies pay you to do research for them and make feedback suggestions based on threads just like this one? So a "think tank" of sorts?

[FPU]

She does not have problems with you guys, but before you start posting, make sure you know who you are talking about, Linda is no newbie, she can really help you guys learn something, so treat her with respect, treat everyone with respect until you find out that they are trying to screw you!

I don't think you can say that about Linda! ;)

Just be cool guys, everything will be alright and Linda will answer your questions in the future.

I just think you guys might be young and have a bit to learn is all. :nod:

[Emancipator]

?????

I'm not a kid. I also did not call anybody anything. Or imply it.

[FPU]

OK then, tell me how old you are and how old John is and be honest! :confused: :D

[5starAffiliates]

No it's cool Emancipator, those comments were mainly for James and the fact that this thread sort of deteriorated.

I do advertising, consulting and PR for my clients. I am not paid to post in forums or answer affiliate questions.

But if I see comments or questions about National Geographic or Western Union or any of the other 50 companies who's affiliate programs I "represent" I try to get an answer. FPU is right. No way I can know everything about 50 different affiliate programs, but I know where to go to get the answer so I try to help when I can.

[Emancipator]

FPU you forget what we just said about being respectfull? Thanks for posting a follow-up Linda. I was going to get into more detail but I have no interest in being apart of a thread where I am suddenly under-attack. So I am going to bow out of this discussion.

Thanks for your answers.

[FPU]

No one is attacking you, you just think that you are under attack, if you don't want to be honest and open that is fine, I am trying to be your friend as you said you knew John, no one is trying to make you look bad, I think you are doing that yourself with your responses!

[5starAffiliates]

HI FPU,

Here is the answer I got for you from Azoogle to your question on the previous page.

"If a webmaster wants to put up a landing page as their own domain it could be accomplished by using a site with frames 99% of the frame goes to the landing page, 1% goes to a blank page on the bottom. But before they do this they should work with their affiliate manager."

This was from someone in upper management, so I would really stress the fact that you should deal with your rep to ensure that you are capitalizing on the best way to do it for your particular situation.

Hope this helps and best of luck!

[FPU]

Thanks Linda, I will look into it :idea:

[James]

Flame war.... whatever, okay, sure *shrugs* I guess I could call it that based on FPU's trying to degrade me (am I John? or is FPU to another thread?) and Emancipator. Call honest questions flames if you will, but I'm just trying to clarify her position with these companies. FPU seems to like jumping on me and Emancipator's backs, but I don't really know what the deal with that is.

Further confusion: How can you represent someone but not be a representative of them? Isn't that a paradox?

I'm just totally lost in the wording.

But regardless: it's a job. I don't look down upon anyone for their jobs, but Linda's position is confusing me, and I'm interested to understand it as it seems like an interesting one that puts her in contact with large businesses and corporations. I'm unfortunately apparently insulting her by asking what it is, or I'm insulting FPU or John or something--I've really no idea what the heck is going on here, so I, too, will bow out of the thread, bewildered.

[FPU]

Just take it easy James, like I told EM, you guys take everything a bit too serious, no one is attacking you, just asking you to have more consideration for Linda is all.

[James]

Sticking my head back in the door for a second here:

You guys might be young and have a bit to learn is all.

tell me how old you are and how old John is

treat everyone with respect until you find out that they are trying to screw you

if you don't want to be honest and open that is fine

Okay: you're being baselessly age discriminant and calling us cynical. You're also trying to twist our wording into insults, and paranoia. Maybe you're just taking everything I say and reading it as being said with a smarmy tone, or something? Change that tone to neutral inquisitive, and you've got how I'm actually meaning to speak.

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With this Azoogle Ads payment fixing deal, what of the people with less money than their last check? Are they to repay Azoogle for the extra money they got?

In example:
Johnny earns $300.00 for his last check. This time around, his site's suffering because Google dropped him to 300 pages back. Now he's only earned $150.00. Will he have to send them a check for $150.00 to fix the deficit?

[FPU]

Like I said James, take it easy man, you both have over reacted :eek: :goof:

[Emancipator]

I dont think I over-reacted at all to being called some punk kid and to "justify my age" for asing Linda a simple question. I know LINDA didnt over-react and call me some "kid". Thanks Linda for answering my question by the way. I am using feedreader now from seeing your website. You seem to use it heavily so I am giving it a shot now on some of my sites :)

Do you find feedreader works well for your readership?

[FPU]

OK then, how old are you for the second time ??? :goof: :eek:

PS: You guys just don't know when to quit, do you?? :cold:

[James]

Also Linda,
"Our advanced network of websites, and publishers has grown to over 2,500 hand picked and constantly monitored partners."
Do you know whether that means that they actually own and operate websites? If so, what are AzoogleAds' sites that they own?

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And FPU, your post is incredibly hypocritical.

[FPU]

OK James, you be cool man! :eek: :goof: :banana:

[5starAffiliates]

Emancipator asked: "I am using feedreader now from seeing your website. You seem to use it heavily so I am giving it a shot now on some of my sites. Do you find feedreader works well for your readership?"

Could you mean feedburner? That's the only thing I can think of you could be referring to. I do use it on my blog as one of many ways for people to suck my feed. I also use it to display my blog headlines on my forum, though it's only Java and I wish it was spiderable.

James Asked: "Our advanced network of websites, and publishers has grown to over 2,500 hand picked and constantly monitored partners."
Do you know whether that means that they actually own and operate websites? If so, what are AzoogleAds' sites that they own?"

Well like I said they are a new client, I am just designing their 5 Star review page this weekend so have not even launched them yet. While they could own other sites - not sure - I'm sure what they are referring to is just like they say in that sentence - all the PUBLISHERS, affiliates, partners that are approved to show ads on their sites. That is their "network" that's what they do.

[Emancipator]

yeah i meant feedburner. I wasnt to worried about the spiderable factor since I have a spiderable xml setup. I think its fantastic for people who are not programmers like myself and dont understand the ins and outs of the internet.

[Westech]

I also use it to display my blog headlines on my forum, though it's only Java and I wish it was spiderable.


5star, and anyone else looking to put spiderable rss feed listings on a page, you should check out lastRSS: http://lastrss.webdot.cz/

[Emancipator]

lastrss is an excellent application. you can also do it in php 5 very easily.

[5starAffiliates]

Thanks Westech,

I'll ck out. I have several scripts that work well for displaying RSS feeds in spiderable HTML on my main site. Just can't get the scripts to work on my forum front page for some reason.

[Emancipator]

the latest version of vbulletin has made that much easier to do now. Even as a programmer Ifound it a huge pain to do linda till they released the new VB with hooks.