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Cutter
08-05-2005, 10:35 AM
Here is a good interview over at the Jensense blog with a guy from Weblogs Inc:

http://www.jensense.com/archives/2005/08/interview_with.html

Absolutely worth the read for everyone with an Adsense site

"What single change do you think made the biggest leap in your AdSense income?
1. Taking off the borders around the advertisement
2. Making the links the same color as the links on the blog"

ogito
08-05-2005, 10:40 AM
Thank you for the sharing , Cutter

Chris
08-05-2005, 10:43 AM
In other words making it blend in instead of stick out.

r2d2
08-05-2005, 10:59 AM
$2000+ per day from Adsense.... Mmmmmm....

Theres a guy that doesnt want to randomly get kicked off Adsense :)

Cutter
08-05-2005, 12:26 PM
I've had complete failures with blending on some sites, on others it gets me a 12%+ clickthrough rate. I think there are a lot of variables at work influenced by site layout, content, colors and ad format.

Emancipator
08-05-2005, 01:20 PM
crikeyes batman!!! great post and thanks for sharing. I suck *** with adsense... I make about $1.. lol.

Chris
08-05-2005, 01:54 PM
I actually think I'll be at that level from pure CPM/CPC ad revenue in 2-4 years, although I don't know if it'll all be adsense.

James
08-06-2005, 01:14 AM
Yeah, thanks for sharing.


Theres a guy that doesnt want to randomly get kicked off Adsense
I'm confused as to what this is implying.

r2d2
08-06-2005, 02:52 AM
I'm confused as to what this is implying.

It just reminded of people *****ing on SitePoint about how they randomly got kicked off Adsense, and they 'havent done anything wrong'. This particular guy would probably be quite peeved if he was actually randomly kicked off Adsense :)

Snowballer
08-09-2005, 10:09 AM
Chris,

In 2-4 years eh? will you be creating more sites? i remember you saying you had enough with new domains...

Chris
08-09-2005, 11:31 AM
No more big content sites. I predict that purely though income growth with my current sites, based on past growth.

moonshield
08-09-2005, 02:02 PM
It just reminded of people *****ing on SitePoint about how they randomly got kicked off Adsense, and they 'havent done anything wrong'. This particular guy would probably be quite peeved if he was actually randomly kicked off Adsense :)

No, he is one guy who has nothing to fear from Google. He is making Google a great deal of money, they are not going to remove their big money makers if they are doing nothing wrong.

Snowballer
08-09-2005, 06:10 PM
No more big content sites. I predict that purely though income growth with my current sites, based on past growth.

very interesting, i can't believe it!

Chris
08-09-2005, 06:34 PM
Well my ad revenue has doubled each year that I've done this, and my ad revenue last may was 15k. If it doubles this year that'll be 1k a day, if it doubles next year that'll be 2k a day, then if it doubles again that'd be 4k a day.

Also the last few years I haven't done any major updates to my literature site and things still doubled, this summer I've done alot.

AndyH
08-09-2005, 09:42 PM
I am about to start development of my first real content website.

In a years time I hope for it to be making $10k/mon.

A million is a bit further away ;)

Todd W
08-09-2005, 10:19 PM
I`m hoping to hit that lucky $10,000 a month by 06. Since I started Jan04 that's not to shabby in my eyes ;)

AndyH
08-09-2005, 10:33 PM
It might not even take a year.

I am going to be putting a bit of money into it upfront for content writers/adders and advertising and already have a membership base of 50K+ people.

Chris - You mentioned a Google penatly for adding AWS to one of your sites. Best practice to keep AWS nowhere near this website?

Chris
08-10-2005, 07:25 AM
Yes, I would keep it off.

Cutter
08-10-2005, 11:16 AM
I'm actually about to drop a few grand into content over the next few weeks or month, it will be interesting to see the results.

Emancipator
08-10-2005, 11:57 AM
i will be very keen to see the site when you get it made Andy.. Drop me a PM if you dont mind showing it to me :)

r2d2
08-10-2005, 12:07 PM
Yes, I would keep it off.

Given this info, and the poor performance of AWS on my house buying site, I have now taken it off.

I have removed links, and renamed the store files, so old links from Google etc, will redirect to the homepage. Is there anything else I should do? If there is a penalty, will google remove it if I removed the AWS?

Chris
08-10-2005, 12:15 PM
I would assume so.

Snowballer
08-10-2005, 12:19 PM
if there is a good % of the site that is unique, do you still feel AWS would neg. effect the site?

Snowballer
08-10-2005, 12:20 PM
Well my ad revenue has doubled each year that I've done this, and my ad revenue last may was 15k. If it doubles this year that'll be 1k a day, if it doubles next year that'll be 2k a day, then if it doubles again that'd be 4k a day.

Also the last few years I haven't done any major updates to my literature site and things still doubled, this summer I've done alot.


usually things don't work on a linear scale, interesting though since your past experience says otherwise.

Emancipator
08-10-2005, 12:27 PM
if there is a good % of the site that is unique, do you still feel AWS would neg. effect the site?

an interesting point since AWS is a very small section of my site as well.

Chris
08-10-2005, 12:40 PM
usually things don't work on a linear scale, interesting though since your past experience says otherwise.
Exactly, I've got 4 years of data showing it doubling, so I'm apt to believe it will again.

r2d2
08-10-2005, 01:31 PM
Of course, doubling every year is quadratic, not linear. So, in Chris's case, things are indeed not linear :)

I too would like to see some quadratic action, but dont really have enough data to show any firm results :cool:

AndyH
08-10-2005, 07:19 PM
i will be very keen to see the site when you get it made Andy.. Drop me a PM if you dont mind showing it to me :)
No worrys. I will probably make a thread here about it. :)

(it won't be as graphical stunning as your sites ;))

mails
08-17-2005, 11:58 PM
Well my ad revenue has doubled each year that I've done this, and my ad revenue last may was 15k. If it doubles this year that'll be 1k a day, if it doubles next year that'll be 2k a day, then if it doubles again that'd be 4k a day.

Nice prediction, indeed! :)

James
08-18-2005, 03:00 AM
Chris: I believe that adding the AWS may have simply triggered the Google 'sandbox'.
http://www.seomoz.org/blogdetail.php?ID=328

chromate
08-18-2005, 04:00 AM
It's a real shame that he wasn't able to dig up more information on it. But I doubt it was sandboxing that got Chris's site, because it's been around for years. Probably some other filter.

Chris
08-18-2005, 05:11 AM
Well what happened to me happened before the word sandbox was ever mentioned in conjunction with SEO. I noticed all my AWS sites took a beating that month, and my coupon site, to which I had added AWS stuff, did as well.

thebillionaire
08-18-2005, 02:25 PM
how many google ads can you serve per page?

thebillionaire
08-18-2005, 02:26 PM
Well my ad revenue has doubled each year that I've done this, and my ad revenue last may was 15k. If it doubles this year that'll be 1k a day, if it doubles next year that'll be 2k a day, then if it doubles again that'd be 4k a day.

Also the last few years I haven't done any major updates to my literature site and things still doubled, this summer I've done alot.

Yep, im hoping to hit that luck $1 a day soon :)

Chris
08-18-2005, 05:54 PM
how many google ads can you serve per page?
3...............

Skeptical
08-19-2005, 01:32 AM
Well what happened to me happened before the word sandbox was ever mentioned in conjunction with SEO. I noticed all my AWS sites took a beating that month, and my coupon site, to which I had added AWS stuff, did as well.
What is AWS?

James
08-19-2005, 04:06 AM
http://www.amazon.com/gp/browse.html/104-0238494-1814317?node=3435361&