In total, how much have you made from AWS?

[incka]

Gross income, in total, how much have you made from AWS?

This is after returns, etc.

$540.51 for me.

[Chris]

I don't track AWS v. other Amazon income, but if I had to estimate I'd say above 20k.

[MarkB]

Probably 1-2k over the course of the last 2 years.

[MarkB]

Oh - thats combined (AWS and static links)...

[incka]

So apart from Chris and Jesse, we don't seem to make that much...

[Westech]

$21.42 :)

[Mike]

About $700 altogether.

[chromate]

So apart from Chris and Jesse, we don't seem to make that much...

Seems not. I've had aws sites for a bit less than a year and only made about 3 - 4k. Some of that is from static links too. Though, I really haven't given them much weight as far as PR goes. Just a few links here and there to keep them ticking over.

[incka]

Chromate - When I go to discount dream I get the following page loading: http://tokyo.nshoster.com/suspended.page/

[chromate]

Oh dear. Thanks for letting me know. I'll get on to the host.

[alien]

I started last quarter, about $250.

[AndyH]

~$400

Meh, profitable ...

[incka]

We've made small profits, so we can't complain, but I can't help thinking if I had put the time I spent making all my AWS sites into making one content site...

[moonshield]

what about other affiliate programs? Surely someone is making more one off those.

[LeglessTable]

$10 so far... and a 0.59% conversion rate. Nothing shy of phenomenal.

[chromate]

what about other affiliate programs? Surely someone is making more one off those.

What, datafeed affiliate programs? I tried one with ebags.com and it's hardly made anything. Again, it needs more PR. Chris has had success with his new datafeed sites. But then, he has the PR to send to them.

[incka]

Well not as much as before... I'm shocked that his survival site went down to PR5 when a 6 months ago it was PR7...

[chromate]

Well, the whole PR update was a bit weird really. A lot of unexpected drops. From what I can see, DMOZ has less PR.

[moonshield]

what about those people at abestweb? What are they doing?

[chromate]

Not all of the programs at abestweb are datafeed sites. DentalPlans for example.

However, there are a few, such as zZounds.com. I think the most successful affiliate marketers there use a combination of advertising (such as AdWords for example), SEO and marketing products to their site's existing users.

Quite often the figures that are quoted, ie, "Blahblah was the top affiliate this month and made a massive $34,000" are not profit. A big proportion of that will go straight on advertising costs. So they may only make a couple thousand profit for example.

[r2d2]

Around $500 - would have been nearly double that if a $6000 order hadnt disappeared before appearing in earnings :(

Around a coupla hundred on advertising though...

[GTech]

I've made $300 in my first three months. But the past month has dropped quite a bit. Most was made with one site in the first two months. Initially, google unleashed on one of my sites and for whatever reason, I was getting some great results. The traffic was incredible. I decided to capitalize on it and update the mod_rewrite, but neglected to do a custom 404 to redirect to new urls before google came back and went through hundreds of my listings. Google just started showing some love again this past week.

Have built two more sites since. Working on links now.

BTW, have been a lurker here for a while, but finally getting off my duff to post :) Feel like I know some of you guys already, have read so many of your posts!

[chromate]

Welcome. You've got some nice sites there. Did you design them yourself? Really nice!

[GTech]

Thank you. Yes, I did the design work on each. Though the the upper left part of the power tools site was inspired from a template I saw on monster templates. The script is from www.ghostscripter.com and I have modified it quite a bit and changed the mod_rewrite to my own preference.

[SWD]

nothing actually worth saying.. i dont pay much attetion to amazon these days

[Billyray]

GTech, I agree with Chromate, your sites are fantastic, clean and stylish. The best I have seen.

Nintendo hire this guy and retire!

[Chris]

Well not as much as before... I'm shocked that his survival site went down to PR5 when a 6 months ago it was PR7...
All sites went down.

[GTech]

Thanks BillyRay and chromate.

Hoping to expand to some other affiliate programs in the near future.

[paulfitz]

Around $50 from half of last quarter on....

After the last google update I am starting to doubt these AWS sites will pay the cost of their hosting + names.

Yes great work GTech, thats how AWS should look :)

[James]

I'm getting a few clicks (just a few), but no buys; I don't get much traffic to it though as I don't really know jack squat about promoting something like this for free without possessing large sites (PR and traffic pools) to link to it.

[pickled]

made around $7000 since april 04, plus a few hundred more from ads on one of them.

would have been quite a bit higher if my host didn't kill 2 of the big ones just before xmas.

[James]

Why did your host kill them?

[pickled]

I don't know, it was a small host and they said they were upgrading and lost my sites entirely. This happened 3 different times before I moved on. I think they may have been doing it on purpose so that they could keep peoples $$$ while pushing them to leave.

the only saving grace is that I was smart enough not to have all my eggs in one basket, so when this occured it really only harmed about 1/5 of my revenue.

[incka]

Sue them. Period.

[pickled]

> Sue them. Period.

that's MUCH nicer than what I originally planned for them :) but, the reality is fighting back just isn't worth my time. also, I knew the risk of fooling with bargain hosts and still signed up, so I really blame myself the most.

[Chris]

You usually agree to terms when signing up that will prevent a successful lawsuit.

[GTech]

Not only that, it's expensive to sue, unless you can find an attorney that will take your case pro-bono or on contingency. I found this out the hard way in 2001 when I sued a former business partner for embezzling. I lost $8000.00 in attorney fees before I finally had to just give up. Justice is available for the wealthy in the USA. It's never as easy as "I'll sue you."

[Chris]

Unless you're a lawyer.

[James]

Still expensive as you are spending the time you'd have spent being one of the expenses for people suing.

[chromate]

In the UK it doesn't have to cost a lot, as you can just go to the small claims court. The other amusing thing is, you're allowed to specify where you would like the hearing to take place. So if the company you're taking to court is based in scotland and you set the court hearing in Southend (on the south coast)... ;)

[incka]

But also suprisingly in the UK a lot less sueing goes on per person than in the US...

In the UK you can represent yourself, and all you have to pay is court fees which are less than $100 a believe...

[Chris]

Don't you also have loser-pays laws though. If you lose a lawsuit you must pay the other person's legal fees?

[moonshield]

really? so if the the other person had a super-expensive attorney, you would have to pay for him?

[aj8]

In the UK you can claim for court fees easily, and book online. However (having used the system to recover debts of more than £1000) I can say that winning isn't the end of the story. You still have to *collect* the debt, and this can be far trickier.

Secondly, the claimant can apply to change where the hearing is, so our defenant had it moved to her local court. So the idea of holding the hearing a long way from the person you are suing is not necessarily going to work - especially if they get legal advice. All claims booked using MoneyClaim.gov.uk are held at Northampton court because that's the one with most spare capacity. I would guess most people who book these types of cases never actually attend court (either as claimant or defendant)..

If anybody wants more information on the mechanics of actually doing this in the UK I'm happy to be PMed by anyone. I am not a lawyer though :)

[chromate]

Secondly, the claimant can apply to change where the hearing is, so our defenant had it moved to her local court.

I didn't think the defendant had the right to set where the hearing was held. I thought that right was reserved for the claimant. At least, that's what I heard on some legal phone in thing on the radio.

[Cutter]

Interesting how this thread goes from making money with AWS to sueing people :p

[aj8]

LOL..

I need to check this .. my case was tricky.

Summarising : we won a judgement in default at northampton, she applied to have it set aside (said she'd never received documentation). At the same time she moved proceedings to her local court. We attended and tried to fight the set-aside. Lost that (giving her time to file a defence). She never filed a defence within the given time limit. We applied for another judgement in default. Won it. Came to a settlement with her solicitor and collected :)

SO she did move proceedings... But it might have been to do with the set aside. I'm still fairly sure the defendant has the right to move it to a court close to them.

[Nintendo]

GTech, I agree with Chromate, your sites are fantastic, clean and stylish. The best I have seen.

Nintendo hire this guy and retire!

Nice. With his site, unless you've seen AWS sites before, you have no idea it's an Amazon site!!!! Mine are UGLY compaired to his!!!!

As for retirement, I did that last Thursday! The geology lab I worked at for almost 10 years moved and now I do this full time. :D:D:D Right now I'm not even doing anything with AWS sites or affiliate programs, instead I'm updating, er resurrecting *gasp* content sites I stoped updating two years ago, some Nintendo sites!! Amazingly these video game sites are still my #1 source for AdSense earnings, 1/6th the pageviews, but over half the earnings, hence the updating them again, since I got an extra 40 hours a week to look at a computer screen, and one site's #5 and 6 (http://www.google.com/search?q=nintendo) in Google out of 17,000,000!!

As for AWS earnings, since June 1st 2003 I've made $20,015.73. With around $1-2,000 not being from the AWS script, but from content sites. Last quarter was just $1170.12, and for the year, $6,339.46 plus $7,637.05 from selling the mod_rewite hack that crashed my earnings!! grrrrrrr.....

[James]

Geez it's interesting that you can say grrrr at the same thing you're selling. Up the price.